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Poll: Students unhappy on wards - supernumery?
Poll: As a student nurse have you ever felt unhappy with your ward experience yet been afraid to complain due to the consequences
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Posted about 1 year ago I am gathering research and would like to know if as a student nurse:- you have experienced difficulties on a placement that you have felt uncomfortable approachinng or discussing because of the consequences that it could result in. Felt the need to put up and shut up as your afraid they may not pass you or your experience may not improve? Not felt as though you are supernumery
All comments are appreciated and are anonymous!
Thanks.
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| Posted about 1 year ago TBH I make my feelings very clear. If I happen to be counted in the numbers and they tell me I say yeah fine but don't let it happen again. Okay that sounds a bit cocky but I do say it a lil better than that. Basically I don't mind if it happens occasionally (once per placement) but if they do it constantly I'm like hold on a minute this isn't fair. Yes practical skills are good but as a student nurse surely I should be learning more nurse type things, ie medication, dischrages etc. Sometimes I have had the courage to speak up and say to HCAs no sorry I can't because ....! I wish I have had the confidence to it most no all of the time. I have done care for 3 years before I started nursing and I only did that so I could get the practical skills and NVQs necessary for nurse training. But I feel sometimes tho we are there to make up the numbers on the ward, actually I know we are coz the first years are now to do 4 weeks of nights and that is sometimes mostly to make up the numbers. So not fair on them. Also I feel the staff especially the HCAs are happy to have students on there and treat us like a spare of hands for them. Don't get me wrong I don't mind getting stuck in but like I said we could be doing something more beneficial to our training. I have failed on not saying what I would like my learnin g opportunities to be, but as my friend pointed out the other day they are already there for you in your PAD document and skills inventory. I do set some learning opportunities and the ward that I failed on I did do what I wanted to learn but unfortunately as I didn't say what they were I failed. Sorry don't mean to go on, but what I was trying to say was sometimes your not given that opportunity to do it or say what you want in the first place. One other lil thing that winds me up more than anything is 'What year are you in?' "year 3" 'Do you know how to do a bed bath and wash someone?' Are they for real? seriously, I get up every morning and I'm able to wash myself, also I'm in my 3rd year doesn't that give you a clue as to what I am capable off?!!!! Sorry rant over, just feeling a bit pugnacious lately and this was a really good opportunity for me to get it all of my chest ;) |
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| Posted about 1 year ago Oh yeah, our policy is to make sure they fill in a clinical incident so that the hospital/BIG MAN knows that a student (unqualified and unpaid) is working on the ward and doing the duties of someone who is qualified and paid. Honestly thats it ;) |
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| Posted about 1 year ago When you failed your placement, had you raised your issues or were your develpment areas not raised in your mid term review???
RESEARCHER
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| Posted about 1 year ago Not that I can recall, one maybe? It was my last placement in year one and I wasn't aware of learning outcomes (or not the way they wanted them) I did try to ask at the start and thru out so that I could set some but they just said you stuff that you want to learn and it wasn't very clear. I'm dyslexic and sometimes I really need things spelling out to me but I didn't tell them til the half way but I did drop the occasional hint. At the half way I was slated, was told all the things that I have done wrong etc, so I worked on them. However when I got to the final it seemed to be a whole load of other problems had arisen and I swear none of these were done in the final weeks. I execpt what I failed on (learning objectives, laws n regualtions and maths/communications) although I did explain the rules to my mentor as best I could she still failed me. What I don't except is some of the stuff they said, for example there seemed to be conflictions between me and the HCAs. If this was so why didnt they come to me and say look your annoying me or you've upset me, no they went to my mentor and told lies. A blatant lie at that, apparently a HCA swore at me, if she did I think I would remember, my mentor said that the HCA went to her and said she knows she shouldnt have done it but I should have gone to my mentor and not the HCA. I did loose my confidence and I found it very hard to trust HCAs on other placements. As a result I went into depression and struggled with my acedemic work. Eventually I got back on track, I haven't had to drop down or anything, I did see a counsellor and I'm looking forward to my next placement. I have recently started working as a HCA and have done a couple of shifts on the ward that I failed. It appears that there were no problems between the majority of the staff and I enjoyed being on there. Needless to say that if there were all these problems they should have some to me earlier instead of waiting til the end and making me feel worthless. As a result on previous placements I have told them what happened and I have said that if you do have any problems please do tell me, and so far its worked mostly positive and its made me feel loads better about myself. It still upsets me now but at least I'm not crying about it anymore :) |
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| Posted about 1 year ago Thanks very much for your honesty in your response. I can fully appreciate how it can be frustrating as a student nurse to fulfill your objectives during placement without causing any awkwardness on the ward. There seems to be a general consensus that students feel that they should "put up and shut up" which is a shame but is something I am hoping with research based evidence, can be improved.
All comments are greatly appreciated and will be taken forward.
Kind Regards
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| Posted about 1 year ago No problem :) Anytime. |